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==Bug Management Discussion== | ==Bug Management Discussion== | ||
Qt | Qt Contributors' Summit 2013 | ||
Session Goal: Find out more about how to make Bug Management more efficient | Session Goal: Find out more about how to make Bug Management more efficient | ||
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Goal for Bug triaging: | Goal for Bug triaging: | ||
* Can/should we get the number of untriaged bugs down to | * Can/should we get the number of untriaged bugs down to 'zero'? | ||
* Verification steps: What are they? | * Verification steps: What are they? | ||
* Triaging steps: What are they? | * Triaging steps: What are they? | ||
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* Who is responsible for what? | * Who is responsible for what? | ||
** Maintainers should get their number of untriaged bugs down to zero once a week? | ** Maintainers should get their number of untriaged bugs down to zero once a week? | ||
** Can we have a qt-project wide | ** Can we have a qt-project wide "bugzy super tuesday"? | ||
** Can we allow more people to prioritise bugs? | ** Can we allow more people to prioritise bugs? | ||
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** Will it help to get more people involved? | ** Will it help to get more people involved? | ||
* Use of | * Use of "fixed version"-field in Jira | ||
* How to help people get involved: | * How to help people get involved: | ||
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===Minutes from the session.=== | ===Minutes from the session.=== | ||
* We have untriaged bugs, we may not be able to triage them all, but we should keep | * We have untriaged bugs, we may not be able to triage them all, but we should keep it's count as low as possible. | ||
* We agreed on | * We agreed on "triaging" definition. Triaging consist of: | ||
** checking if a bug report is sensible. It means the reported issue is not a result of a user mistake, use of undefined behavior etc. | ** checking if a bug report is sensible. It means the reported issue is not a result of a user mistake, use of undefined behavior etc. | ||
** checking if a bug report is not missing an important data, so it would be possible to reproduce it in future | ** checking if a bug report is not missing an important data, so it would be possible to reproduce it in future | ||
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** approvers should be in the group by default | ** approvers should be in the group by default | ||
Rationale: We do not have man power and we need help. We do not expect anyone to destroy our precious bugs reports or play | Rationale: We do not have man power and we need help. We do not expect anyone to destroy our precious bugs reports or play "ping*pong" with a priority. | ||
* What does it mean | * What does it mean "fixed version" in bug report | ||
** we do not fill it until an issue is really fixed, which means merged | ** we do not fill it until an issue is really fixed, which means merged | ||
** we do not want to use the field for estimation | ** we do not want to use the field for estimation | ||
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* Jira workflow was designed for much bigger team, that includes QA department, it should be simplify | * Jira workflow was designed for much bigger team, that includes QA department, it should be simplify | ||
** We decided that | ** We decided that "in progress" state means that someone started work on a bug or it have a fix which is not merged yet. Time statistics doesn't show anything, anyway. | ||
** Resolved, Verified and Closed should be merged to a single state. Nobody is going through Resloved bugs to verify them. | ** Resolved, Verified and Closed should be merged to a single state. Nobody is going through Resloved bugs to verify them. | ||
** It would be nice to have a transition from Open to Closed state | ** It would be nice to have a transition from Open to Closed state | ||
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Bug Management Discussion
Qt Contributors' Summit 2013
Session Goal: Find out more about how to make Bug Management more efficient
- Gather suggestions, and make some decisions.
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Please add to the list if there are topics related to Qt Bugs that you would like to discuss.
After the QtCS, this page will turn into a summary of what was discussed.
Some topic suggestions for the Agenda
Goal for Bug triaging:
- Can/should we get the number of untriaged bugs down to 'zero'?
- Verification steps: What are they?
- Triaging steps: What are they?
- Verify that can reproduce as described
- Verify that can reproduce on reported platform with latest version in /dev
- Prioritize
- Who is responsible for what?
- Maintainers should get their number of untriaged bugs down to zero once a week?
- Can we have a qt-project wide "bugzy super tuesday"?
- Can we allow more people to prioritise bugs?
- How can we get more people involved, and in which areas?
- Will it help to get more people involved?
- Use of "fixed version"-field in Jira
- How to help people get involved:
- Need How to use jira doc?
- wiki: how to get started?
- How to make sure we fix the right bugs
- P0 and P1s and beyond
Minutes from the session.
- We have untriaged bugs, we may not be able to triage them all, but we should keep it's count as low as possible.
- We agreed on "triaging" definition. Triaging consist of:
- checking if a bug report is sensible. It means the reported issue is not a result of a user mistake, use of undefined behavior etc.
- checking if a bug report is not missing an important data, so it would be possible to reproduce it in future
- setting a priority
- optionally the bug report may be verified. It it is reproduced then it should be accept which means moved to open state
Rationale: It looks like the most common behavior of people triaging bugs.
- Who can prioritize bugs?
- whoever ask
- we will create a special group in jira
- approvers should be in the group by default
Rationale: We do not have man power and we need help. We do not expect anyone to destroy our precious bugs reports or play "ping*pong" with a priority.
- What does it mean "fixed version" in bug report
- we do not fill it until an issue is really fixed, which means merged
- we do not want to use the field for estimation
- we now that it can be filled automatically, it would be nice to implement that.
- Jira workflow was designed for much bigger team, that includes QA department, it should be simplify
- We decided that "in progress" state means that someone started work on a bug or it have a fix which is not merged yet. Time statistics doesn't show anything, anyway.
- Resolved, Verified and Closed should be merged to a single state. Nobody is going through Resloved bugs to verify them.
- It would be nice to have a transition from Open to Closed state